Curse

L|S >+>+G+<+< · Sep 02, 2007, 01:38 AM // 01:38

another /NOT SIGNED

i really like the idea that you have to earn the right to speak to the armour guy.
it dont take long to build up the faction so stop whinging and go earn it mate.

next thing you'll want is free ecto's or something ........

Bubba · Sep 02, 2007, 01:42 AM // 01:42

You want something, you earn it.

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nightwatchman · Sep 02, 2007, 01:44 AM // 01:44

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The grind for these armors is much less than the fissure, or even 15k kurzick/luxon used to be. Only difference is that you can't ebay these armors.

Series · Sep 02, 2007, 07:31 AM // 07:31

Anet does 2 things:

1. Anet introduces new titles, which allow you to access cool armor crafters and such. Cool.

2. Anet provides NO WAY TO INCREASE THESE TITLES other then to go around killing things over and over and over again. Quests and such will only get you so far... not far at all!

Therefore, this petition calls for the enactment of one of two options:

1. Remove the requirement of titles from the crafters

2. Provide a way to gain title points OTHER than constant meaningless grind, such as a repeatable quest with a nice reward or a huge bonus for vanquishing an area or SOMETHING.

Right now, the only way to increase ranks in the title is to go in a few areas, kill random things with no purpose, and repeat. For people who hate grinding, this sucks, and we are limited in the game because of it. Either remove the requirement or provide a way to quickly gain points that doesn't involve going around killing things without rhyme or reason. Lets take the grind out of grind wars!

Also, for the "high end" people who like farming and think this would make them angry, they still have those ridiculous crafters that require 75 ecto for a pair of gloves. With my suggestion implemented, "normal" people can play without grinding and still get the armor we were promised when we got the game, and "elite" people can go buy their 75 ecto gloves. Everyone has something.

MMSDome · Sep 02, 2007, 08:53 AM // 08:53

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armor would be to easy to get then

haggus71 · Sep 02, 2007, 12:22 PM // 12:22

/signed

Elite shouldn't mean you are able to withstand doing the same grind over and over again. Monkeys can learn to do that. I think it should be tied to finishing the quest line for each area. You get to purchase Norn after you are rewarded from King Jalis, for example.

Hell, the way it is, now, just doing the quest thread alone, you would have to do it 14 times on one character for the 56k. Yeah, they don't want to encourage grind. Or, you can grind through Bison's fat ass a million times (an exaggeration, before anyone comments).If you want to keep the game interesting, don't make people pound through it over and over until they are bored with it.

It's about as bad as riding the Jununda to grind Sunspear.
It's becoming WoW with a prettier background and no persistent world.

haggus71 · Sep 02, 2007, 12:32 PM // 12:32

/notsigned.

let the monkeys that can do repetitive tasks over and over and....err, the elite players...be rewarded for their hard work.

"Boars are only 2 xp each. Do you know how many boars we would have to kill?"

"6,578,362. It should take 7 weeks giving 3 hours a day for sleep."

nightwatchman · Sep 02, 2007, 12:33 PM // 12:33

/not signed

Armor has been dropped to Rank 5, and it barely qualifies as grind considering you can get it just by clearing a few zones.

If it was still Rank 7 you might have had a point.

Takeko Nakano · Sep 02, 2007, 12:48 PM // 12:48

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Rank 5 is quite achievable.

Seissor · Sep 02, 2007, 12:48 PM // 12:48

-half signed. I want more quests or more methods of getting faction. Clearing zones over and over and over and over and over is fun for 3 hours, then it's like watching MASH...repeated on television for the 42nd time, where you know everyones lines and the humor has dried up.

Seems to be alot of effort for what comic book guy says is, WORST ARMOR EVER

Nabru Yar · Sep 02, 2007, 12:50 PM // 12:50

/not signed

I like the idea of having to 'work' toward the armor, makes it have value (to me personally, at least)

Darkhorse · Sep 02, 2007, 12:54 PM // 12:54

It's frighteningly easy to get rank 5. Leave as is.

BlackSephir · Sep 02, 2007, 01:03 PM // 13:03

I think the OP doesn't mean that it'd be good if people wouldn't have to work to get their presitge armour.
The problem is grinding- it's boring, it's repetitive and it's only purpose is to get to R5.
I'd gladly see it changed to something like this: wanna our prestige armour? No problem. You just have to do this one quest. Of course it's hard as hell and you probably won't do it with henchies and heroes but hey, it's better than grinding, right?

JeniM · Sep 02, 2007, 01:15 PM // 13:15

/notsigned

Soon as people have to work its GRIND GRIND

Vl Vl D · Sep 02, 2007, 01:40 PM // 13:40

/not signed

The game has only been out for a couple of days and it use to be rank 7. GW 2 is not coming out for another year which give you pleanty of time to work towards it. Theres already godly items going cheap or dropping from easy chests.

What is this thing with item skins thatconsumes people to the point where they dislike the the game and spend more time thinking about it then playing.Do you realy want everything right now or would rather discover somthing nice in six months time that you didnt know in the fist two days of playing.Remember its GW2 wont be another year.

Cale Roughstar · Sep 02, 2007, 02:23 PM // 14:23

/beginrant...

People seem to be forgetting the fact that in NF you would need to grind a few monsters to progress in the game, and people were fine with that. Now that the grind has anything to do with prestige armours everybody FREAKS out! Because heaven forbid, you should not have to actually work for your stuff! OMGEEEEZZZZ I HAVE TO w0rk for my arm0rx!!!1!!one! What the world coming to when you have to put some effort into looking cool...

I find it sad that 2 days after the game is out, people are already finding something so trivial to gripe about. Remeber, this is a game, YOU paid for it. YOU choose to play it. WE don't care that YOU don't want to work for your 15k armours. Do you feel that simply because you paid for GW:EN that it is your Balthazar-given right to have 15k armour? Is your sense of entitlement that big? Do you need that armour to play the game? Because you want it you deserve it? Should it be granted to you with no effort on your part?

You have to work for your armour. Is this really that hard? It requires effort. Do you understand? It's not that much anyways. Am I getting through to you? It requires effort. Such an amazing concept this effort...

/endrant

oh, before I forget....

/notsigned

BlackSephir · Sep 02, 2007, 02:28 PM // 14:28

Quote:

People seem to be forgetting the fact that in NF you would need to grind a few monsters to progress in the game, and people were fine with that.

It was one of the most stupid ideas in the GW history ever.
"you need to grind x more points to move the story"

Elnai · Sep 02, 2007, 02:57 PM // 14:57

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You don't HAVE to have the armor from the crafters.

Squishy ftw · Sep 02, 2007, 03:18 PM // 15:18

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The title requirement is already low enough..

rohara · Sep 02, 2007, 03:18 PM // 15:18

i wouldn't go as far as to say remove the title requirements completely...just lower them a tad. i've finished the game and i still can't craft anything but consumables. (r3 in all the titles) seems kinda wrong you can beat the game, do all the quests, even farm a little bit - and still not be able to craft armor or weapons. *shrug*